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Jonathan Tucker & Olivia Wilde interview (The Black Donnellys)

Date of publishing: 7th March 2007

Jonathan Tucker & Olivia Wilde interview (The Black Donnellys) The show follows the exploits of four young, working-class Irish-American brothers and their involvement in organized crime in New York City. The Donnelly brothers will do anything to protect each other against all odds. The ensemble cast includes Kirk Acevedo, Thomas Guiry, Billy Lush, Keith Nobbs, Michael Stahl-David, Jonathan Tucker and Olivia Wilde. The pilot was directed by Haggis, who also wrote the Academy Award-winning “Million Dollar Baby.” Haggis and Moresco are the creators and executive producers.

The series is a production of NBC Universal Television Studio in association with Blackfriars Bridge Productions. This is the full report from the NBC press conference with Jonathan Tucker & Olivia Wilde.
Media World was there to cover the event.

For my first question for Jonathan, and I was just wondering how do you kind of get into your character or pump yourself up before a scene, do you listen to, I don’t know, Dropkick Murphys or watch the Departed before you go and film the next day?

Jonathan Tucker: You know, actually, I do use music a lot for - I've always used music for my acting and I do have a kind of a very personal play list that I create - iTunes has been a real blessing for that, because it allows me to personalize the moment and scenes and the whole general overview for the show. And I don’t do the Dropkick Murphys because they're not on iTunes, I've doing the Flogging Mollies which I think are a wonderful little band for the Irish stuff but…

Question: Oh yeah definitely. Have you been exposed to any new Irish based bands since you…

Jonathan Tucker: Actually, I have them on my computer and I can't tell which ones are. But there is a band I just heard about the album called “Enter the Haggis” which is an Irish American band and they’re fabulous and I thought that was appropriate that they were called “Haggis.”

Question: Okay, and my other question for Olivia, since it is a very testosterone filled set, have you played any pranks on the guys to kind of, hold your own, do you joke around with them about anything?

Olivia Wilde: They’re playing pranks on each other, there’s no room for my pranks. But I - they are just a pleasure to work with, each and everyone of them and I never really feel outnumbered - I don’t know, I guess I feel like one of the guys or they feel like one of the girls, I can't tell which but its all good.

Question: I know there's acting and you always have to step into another role, but this is so interesting because the two of you both comes form families you’d call almost academic or literate or so forth very artistic families, and you’re into such a tough blue collar role. So I was wondering just how, as you step into these characters just in general, what do you do to get into their - much different roles than I'm sure you’ve grown up?

Olivia Wilde: Okay, I met with Barbara Moresco, who is Bobby Moresco’s wife before we shot the pilot, and discussed what it was like to grow up as a young woman in this type of neighborhood, and I still use my notes form that interview as we shoot the show and it is invaluable information for me, because I did grow up in a very different type of environment. So that’s really helpful, also, shooting the show in New York City really helps get into the role and with our crew who are mostly from neighborhoods like the one we are creating, and having Bobby Meresco around to keep us in the moment and keep us close to where he come from and reminding us how there people think and react and speak really helped. So I think a combination of all those things for me.

Jonathan Tucker: Mike, I'd say that this show really, more than anything else, is we've worked to have it be about truth and that’s really what were hoping kind of separates us from a lot of the other shows that are on network television, it is more cinematic, it is like the shows you’ll see on an HBO or Showtime, it’s more like going to sit in a movie theater. And for me, the truth that I was able to find in regards to that working class, Irish American experience, it was very close to home, I grew up, as I joke around, I say the People’s Republic of Charlestown in the City of Boston. And I was blessed to be raised right there, on Monument Square in Charlestown and every morning, I'd hop on the bus on go to a 45-minute out into the suburbs in Brooklyn. So I went to school and I got have my seat really in both worlds.

Question: Why did you take the long bus trip for the elementary school?

Jonathan Tucker: It was just a wonderful, wonderful school.

Question: And Olivia, just some impressions or thoughts from Rosco, I mean when you first met her, what did you find interesting about her as a person?

Olivia Wilde: I found it fascinating that so many difficult things - so many painful things that happened during her life, and yet she didn’t feel sorry for herself, didn’t tell a soft story about her, you know, difficult childhood, she was very strong and resilient and I think that’s what I try to take and put into Jenny.

Question: The women are so interesting in the show, the mother in the second episode, the way she suddenly hides the blood on the collar, there is just these little efforts, define it in general how do people both keep their nurturing spirit and yet this absolutely tough spirit simultaneously?

Olivia Wilde: Yeah, I think it is a matter of survival, I think that’s what they ask to do in order to keep going in that world. I think especially the women, have to remain incredibly strong kind of turn the other cheek pretend they’re not seeing a lot of what’s going on and yet, keep everything going and nurturing and so I think that’s what’s so great about Kate’s character, is that she sort or coaching Jenny in the ways of being a woman in this neighborhood and what Jenny’s going to have to deal with in the future, even though she’s grown up as one as one of the boys, now she’s going to have to start covering for them.

Question: How do you relate - did you, Jonathan, have a lot of brothers growing up and was easy for you to jump into your role here, to just do a lot of covering up for anything that happened with your brothers or anything like that, or friends?

Jonathan Tucker: I have a younger sister and I'm actually here in DC right now surprising her for her 21st birthday, and I love her very much, I think that as much as this is a show that is specifically about New York City and about the Irish and the Black Irish, and by the working class group of brothers, it is a universal story in regards to family, what you would do for a family. So I don’t have nay brothers but I really fundamentally can understand being put to a position where I have to make an extraordinary choice to take arms to protect the people I love.

Question: And Miss Wilde, I saw one episode where you were trying to covering up for the brothers by, you know, you went down to the basement and you took care of the accident that have happened there, how hard was it for you to - like, do you want to do this to protect these people but you kind of have the feel it was kind of wrong in a way too, how do you deal with the moral ambiguity of what you’re struggling with?

Olivia Wilde: I think that’s exactly what she does for the whole season, is struggle with that, and she decides that she has to protect them because they are her family, but she needs to remove herself a little bit from them so that she can protect herself, and I think that’s why she distanced herself from Tommy against every instinct that she has of her loving him, she has to protect herself. And so yes, she struggles with that and goes back and forth, she’ll clean up the blood but she won't knowingly condone the violence, at least not yet.

Question: A question for Jonathan. Wow, you played a really convincing thug at the end of the first episode, very, very convincing, but I know that your background is - your father is a great art professor, did he help you prepare for the art student side of your character? And how did you prepare to be a gangster, did you have, like, training with weaponry?

Jonathan Tucker: That’s very sweet of you, thank you for saying that. My father teaches at UMass Boston, it is one of the only public institutions in the entire city which hosts almost 60 colleges and universities, is the only public one and he’s got people coming in who’s got one or two jobs, the average age in his class in 27, a lot of people have kids, a lot of them have very real concerns and they're coming in almost an hour of public transportation to go once or twice a week to learn about say French impressionism and modern sculpture and that is sort of a beautiful thing to see. And that experience has been a part of my life, and so I can understand the duality with Tommy because it is very much the duality that you have in a lot of the students that are coming from tough neighborhoods to go to UMass and I understand that from my father. And as for the weaponry and those are those things when you’re acting, you really want to, you got to commit and you just got to go for it. You know, that means driving a car or any kind of props, you just got to practice all that stuff a lot and I've been very lucky, we have great prop guys and good practice time and it’s all about truth so a lot of the stuff there are real props and I got to really try them out.

Question: And for Olivia, I have read somewhere that you’re actually a princess, is that true?

Jonathan Tucker: Yeah, you should see her on set, it is unbelievable.

Olivia Wilde: My husband’s father was a Prince, he - unfortunately passed away a couple of years ago, but he was a prince in Rome, and so, by law, and so it’s my husband, and technically, that makes me a princess and so… Very archaic thing, aristocratic title that actually the Pope gave out to a few families in Rome in the 15th Century, so you know, it’s kind of funny because in writing, occasionally, I’ll get a piece of mail that says Princess Olivia and I’ll get really excited and keep it for a year. But it is - yeah, I'm not a princess on set though.

Jonathan Tucker: The thing is, sometimes Olivia calls me Daddy and that makes me a King. (laughter) It comes all back, and it is really not archaic, I like to think of it as a modern day fairy tale.

Question: Do you bring that experience into your character, about how you got married and the rebellious side?

Olivia Wilde: That’s interesting when I read the pilot script, I thought wow, I've never read about anyone else who got married when they were 18 except for my grandmother actually, but I don’t know about that until after I got married. But so, I do bring into account the fact that to do that, to really go against the norm and do something that other 18 year old girls are certainly not doing. You have to be a little bit different, a little bit of an oddball. So I recognize that in Jenny and in myself and it definitely helped me understand her the way I think other girls wouldn’t really be able to understand.


Question: A question for Olivia, I read that you grew up in Dublin, I just wondered whether you knew any families like the Donnellys, not necessarily from the organized crime element, but in terms of family values and loyalty. And also whether either of you were worried about kind of playing into negative stereotypes of the Irish really with this show.

Olivia Wilde: Well, I actually, my father is from County Waterford in the Southeast of Ireland and I went to acting school in Dublin, but when I was in Ireland as a young person, I was always in the south in a very, very small fishing village called Old Morrick and there were a few thousand people at most living there. And the kids there became each others families and some people didn’t have mothers or fathers and everyone became a huge family and the tight knit group that formed really informed my acting on the show. And it is very Irish to take care of each other and to struggle through very profound difficult times with humor and with your friends and family, of course. So, yeah, that definitely helped, I didn't know any families like the Donnelly’s although it is funny because there was always a family, the Hennessey’s in our town that there seem to be endless Hennessey’s, it was like 76 Hennessey’s in the village alone and they were all cousins and I always wanted to be one of them, so I understand this feeling of being friends with the family and always feeling like you kind of wish you were one of them. But I'm, just because they're such a tight knit group and they took care of each other, as far as the stereotype, I think the Irish American community is very different from the Irish-Irish community, and I certainly learned that. And because we are working with - under the guidance of Bobby Moresco who grew up in Hell’s Kitchen, I feel like there’s absolutely no creative license were taking with who these people are and their essence. And I don’t think - I don’t think there’s any negative stereotypes being drawn in the show, I think that the most important thing we’re showing is that this is a community that sticks together no matter what, and it is a very isolated community and yes, it is very difficult to extricate yourself from it and move beyond it. But that’s all based on real experiences and I really- I hope the Irish people don’t take offense with any of the statements being made in the show, because, of course it is very different from the Irish people, Irish Americans is very different and I think we’re making a point of showing that.

Jonathan Tucker: I mean the show is about contrast and I simply - we try to show as fully and as richly as we can in the story that there is violence and there is alcohol and there’s this scent of impetuousness that you see with these young boys but there is also tremendous love and family values and great humor and I think that is very important to note.

Question: And do you have any Irish links, yourself Jonathan, and then have you had any kind of feedback from obviously, it's early days, it's only just screened over here, but have you had any feedback from kind of the American Irish community?

Jonathan Tucker: As I said, blessed to come from Boston and specifically from this neighborhood in Charlestown and they’ve all been incredibly supportive, very lucky to have that support and I think it is fun for them to see part of their experience put into a story.

Question: Jonathan, your character started out trying to be the peacemaker, and then he got sucked into all this awful stuff, and I just wondered if you were the peacemaker or the troublemaker among your own friends?

Jonathan Tucker: I would say quite like Tommy, I'm probably a little bit of both, actors were all little kind of Gemini, two faces and I'm working always towards the peace, but sometimes, I get a little fire in my belly.

Question: Yeah, did you do any joyriding as a teen?

Jonathan Tucker: I sure….

Question: I don’t mean steal a car necessarily, but…

Jonathan Tucker: Well - I sure - there had been many times when I've heard slow down coming from the passenger side or my mother and father would sit, clutching the car door.

Question: And Olivia, were you a tomboy at all as a kid and did you hand around with a bunch of boys as a young girl?

Olivia Wilde: Yeah, yeah, I was a tomboy and I didn’t have a bunch of brothers but I always wanted them and so I sort of adopted a few of my great friends to be my brother.

Question: Sounds very much like your character then?

Olivia Wilde: Yeah, exactly, very much like Jenny, and as I get older, I mean, my mother was a very strong woman, a very important part of my life and so as I got older, I became sort of more of a girl, and I have now ten amazing wonderful girlfriends in my life and yet, I still feel like a tomboy all the time. And I think I bring that into Jenny. It's funny, I always imagine that if we have another season, one day we’ll meet one of Jenny’s friends if she has any, who is a girl… I'd love to see Jenny trying to get dressed up for a night out or something.

Question: That would be cool…

Olivia Wilde: She is so not girly, it would be great to see her try.


Question: This question is for both of you. How difficult is it as actors waiting months and months after getting picked up until your show finally airs?

Olivia Wilde: It’s painful. (laughter)

Jonathan Tucker: I see and Olivia and I were talking about this - just the other day is that, were people really don’t understand to who maybe aren’t in the business who aren’t haven’t been a part of these kinds of project, is that it’s an experience that we share and then we create and it’s a very beautiful experience of this particular project is a very painful experience. Emotionally, all of us were cutting ourselves so to speak. And we experiences the experience - the ride, the journey and then the release of this or people watching it or anything is, that’s just as a small fraction of it. In the present, we’re so blessed that you guys are here. I'm so thankful that you're helping us to put the word out. But this is such a small little part of everything that we've been doing and nothing really affects that experience because it stands on its own and it was such an incredible place for all of us and we’re so changed as actors and human beings because of it that waiting for to come out or all the anxiety that people think may or may not be there when you're really think about just what it is how great or was. That really affects it.

Olivia Wilde: Also I think we were very blessed also to have the opportunity to shoot 13 episodes without premiering so we can concentrate fully on the work without really worrying about premiering and doing press as we’re on set working because that really does distracts you. So I think that was a wonderful thing that we got just as really concentrate and be in the moment.

Question: Jonathan, at the end of the first episode, your character takes a really a huge turn and I'm wondering you think after that you can ever go back and sort of redeem himself as to the line he crosses?

Jonathan Tucker: Yeah, I don’t know but - yes. I think this - obviously coming my actor perspective representing him like a client in a suit here or a court case. He is a redeemable character and if he’s not redeemable, then we got a very serious problem on our hands as storyteller and I think he is redeemable and I think what people want to help people understand is that, again, it’s a story about New York and it’s a story about the Irish underworld perhaps, but it really is about family. And if you put somebody in Des Moines Iowa or somebody over there in an island or somebody in Japan into this same kind of position that they perhaps would crossed that very painful line.

Question: And Olivia, the show doesn’t romanticize the balance at all but I imagine just from an actor’s perspective, it got to be a playing more sort of fun thing to want to be a gangster to run around with the gun, do you ever envy the guys getting to do that sort of stuff?

Olivia Wilde: You just wait. Jenny gets tougher and tougher. Yeah. I love though. I love her strength. There’s a few times when you think if I were Jenny I would blow out at that point or I would break down or I would kill somebody myself. But she had learned to practice extreme restraint and self control. And I think that, that makes the response for me as an actress. She sort of has the opposite reaction with things as she should for a lot of things. But she does get tougher and tougher. And the only reason she doesn’t fight as much as they do is because she knows it is usually not a good idea, but she eventually loses a little more control.

Question: And I just want let you guys how you touch upon a little bit about filming in New York but ask you a bit more about what that’s like it’s really distracting the pilot it seems Jonathan were - you're chasing the guy and through those streets and through that sort of big dirt pile that it really have a genuine feel what's it’s like to be someone in that neighborhood.

Jonathan Tucker: Is it that they continue to - is it it’s part of kind of a pie that adds to the veracity of the project and the story that we're trying to tell. And being on those neighborhoods and being in the environment cinematically and the story and for us as actors just aids in that.

Question: A question for both of you. What was your reaction when you first read the script of The Black Donnelly’s?

Olivia Wilde: Okay, when I first read the script of The Black Donnelly’s, I was completely shocked that it was a television show, that it wasn’t a film. It read like a film then it actually better than 90% of the film scripts that I read the previous year. So I had not wanted to go back into the television but the second I read it, I knew I had to try and get this role which I didn’t think of that I was going to be able to get. But I was completely shocked that it was TV.

Jonathan Tucker: I had somewhat the same reaction. We read the script all the time and then so, unfortunate that you get see all these movies that get made that just aren’t that interesting. And I think that more and more now actors are reading scripts just for the script and just with the story and I think and this came across as spectacular. It was a hard decision. For me, I didn’t really want to do play the same character for five years and looking back and how hard the decision it was to do television and to have an experience that I've had and how positive it was. I'm surprised that it was such a hard decision.

Question: I want to understand looking more about the Jenny Tommy relationship. Because in the first episode, it said that Jenny was married and I haven’t referenced to is - that much since that, first is that true that Jenny still has a husband that’s alive right now or?

Olivia Wilde: No. Jenny’s husband is dead but she doesn’t know it yet or we don’t think she knows it yet. Joey Ice Cream has a line with the pilot where he says - he showed up in an oil drum and nobody had the heart to tell poor Jenny. So the idea is she’s in denial or she actually doesn’t know. And that resurfaces later on. I think we wanted to see that going - I mean. In this type of neighborhood you don’t just get divorced and she actually has a meeting with the police in one of that episodes that you may have seen where she tells her to get annulment or suggest an annulment. And that’s the only way out that she could possibly envision. But for a girl like her to have been left as it seems since she doesn’t necessarily know he’s dead. It’s such a disgrace for her. She’s sort of falling from grace in a way. And not to say to be as harsh to say she’s used up good but she definitely sort of off the market and kind of in a sad place. And the problem is that, she got married to solve one problem with her life that didn’t turned out. And so now, she tries to in an attempt to solve this problem, she make more mistakes, and that sort of the journey of Jenny. She is not supposed to be the saintly good Catholic girl. She has many, many issues and dark places in her life and this is one of them. And it doesn’t make sense and it is a huge problem for her. And it continues to get even more complicated.

Question: I know this is series takes place in more contemporary times. What did you guys do about the wardrobe that you guys are wearing? Do you think it is true to what a New Yorker would be wearing right now?

Olivia Wilde: Yeah. Actually, our wardrobe designer just went to the stores that these will go to. There’s no Abercrombie and Fitch in there. There’s nothing like that. These are local stores that she found our all wearing hand me down - the Donnelly brothers, I'm sure, are all wearing each other clothes. And so, it’s all very true to real life, she actually is a wonderful costume designer and then she make sure not of them look too modern or attractive and that meant that Jenny’s pants are always a little bit too short and to - everything is not quite right and that was her way of making sure we didn’t look straight out of the OC. It’s very real.

Jonathan Tucker: And you're saying that - do you feel like they were close - should you?

Question: Well, we had, you know, when I was watching with my friends who are all born and raised New Yorkers and we all work in media, they all like, “Hey, wait.” You know, some of the are Irish and they were like, “Where are the Mets Cap?”

Jonathan Tucker: There is something. I mean there is something that we wanted to do to have more of a timeless feel to it?

Question: Yeah.

Jonathan Tucker: And we certainly could have got into gone farther. I mean, we didn’t even want to have like cell phones and stuff. So there is somewhat of not a fantasy aspect to it because it is really all we’re trying to do is getting the truth at every single turn we’re asking each other questions. Why would I go there, why would I do that? Well, wouldn’t somebody else see me or things like that? And we go through all emotions to kind of who to get at that truth, but there are also things that we kind of want to shy away from, I think one of the things in terms of the wardrobe that was important was to make sure that it was really neighborhood kind of stuff, but at the same point, to not have that bling-bling kind of culture.

Question: And one question about you, this is into the premier of your show and I found that you're doing some press. You're almost unrecognizable because you had cut your hair so much. Is there a reason for it? Are you preparing for another role?

Jonathan Tucker: I was just in Morocco shooting a very small but wonderful role in Paul Agatha’s next film called the Medallion of Alice, so it’s an army soldier and I shaved it off.

Question: Obviously, a lot of fans will know you from the OC, I mean particularly in the UK. Can you just tell us about how that role has kind of affected to make your profile really and a bit about the contrast between that and this role, obviously, it is a big departure for you.

Olivia Wilde: Yeah, well, that role was amazing to me because I had no idea how many people it would reach and how many lives it would touch. I still get letters from young women around the world saying that I help them accept themselves and how they're different from their peers and whether it’s, you know, their sexuality or just because they feel like an outsider much like my character was. And so, that what's really important to me about having done that role is that, I feel like it made a difference in a few people’s lives. The similarity between Jenny and Alex it was a girl from the OC is they're both outsiders and difference is that, Jenny is much less of kind of obviously she doesn’t know anything about pop culture at all. She never had this opportunity really. She wasn’t able to stay in school. So, yeah. They're very good because they come from completely different world. But their similarities is that they're outsiders and I really enjoy playing outsider.

Question: And Jonathan, you come from kind of ballet training background. So obviously this is kind of a huge contrast as well. I mean if you kind of dance background help with by choreography or anything?

Jonathan Tucker: I wish I could give you a good answer and say that I did. It really worried me about some important for me was when I was younger and kind of professionalism and the functionality and the kind of the ability to listen and take directions was invaluable.

Question: I just want to ask both of you. What is now the biggest obstacle to your two characters getting together? Is it that she still think she’s married or a bit too shy to make a move or she is in love with Shawn or what's the deal, I'm not sure.

Olivia Wilde: Well, basically the difference this show and I think of normal television drama is that, when it comes to the love interest and the love story, we can't - we don’t have the luxury of dwelling on the ups and down of love and the flirting and all of that business because there is too many life or death things to be worrying about. The stakes are too high. And I think that they both realize that and even though Jenny would have love for Tommy to not get in that elevator and to step out and to stay with her. And that wasn’t because she wanted him to be with her. She was trying to save his life because she sees him going down that road of his brothers as losing his way out of the neighborhood and losing his life. So I think that is really what it’s about. And as far as their wellness together, it continues to be this very difficult decision of do we give into our instincts or do we remember that this can't happen, A, because I'm married. B, because I morally object to everything that he’s doing and I told him not to do it and he did against my will and I think that really what stops him. I don’t think the fact that she’s married, I mean he knows her husband is dead. He doesn’t have the heart to tell her. And she maybe suspects that she knows he’s not coming back at least. But the stakes are too high to give in to anything just yet, I think.

Jonathan Tucker: Response to that is really a reflection of kind of where we are all as actors in terms of the conversation that we were having with each other and with Paul and Bobby which was that really is like think about acting kind of as an iceberg where you got that 5% that you see above the water. But in order to have that 5% buoyed, you have to have another 95%. And so, really I think for me as an actor and what you always I do I guess that we’re really talking about on the set of the Donnellys was how we are fighting against someone. And that’s particularly true between Tommy and Jenny. We’re fighting again, not sure how much we care about each other or not show how much something hurts us or costs us emotionally. And in order to have that - in order to fight against it, you have to have a lot going on under the water and Olivia’s response about, she tell you a lot then it’s because that shows there is a lot that we have to have in order for us to really come and get it the truth to be a different show.

Olivia Wilde: Hopefully people were really want to follow that relationship. I find that interesting.

Question: Did you guys always want to be actors while you were growing up or did you have other professions in mind?

Olivia Wilde: Yeah, I think there was no other profession for me. I was either going into an insane asylum or to be an actor. Because I think it is for a lot of people. If we didn’t have this profession, what would we do? I'm so grateful that this tendency switch to different characters and talk to yourself can be legitimized and get paid for it. So, I always wanted to do it.

Jonathan Tucker: It’s all. It’s like the older we get, the more and more as actors we’re trying to go back to that place when we were children we’re all great actors when you go to the play, the dress up box and you put on that costume and you are the princess. And no matter what anyone tells you or anyone doesn’t tell you, you are going to be that way and you can play for hours like that. It’s a great sense play that I think we as actors trying to get back to over and over again.

Question: What did it feel like for both of you first stepped in front the camera for your first professional acting role?

Jonathan Tucker: It just seem like I remember looking around and I was 11. I remember looking around and said, “Gosh, this is it. This is what I want to do. This is fun. This is everything I want to do.”

Olivia Wilde: Yeah, I agree with that completely exhilarating and knowing, “Oh, there’s nothing else for me now. Now that I tasted it. This is it. And I’ll sacrifice everything to be able to do it.

Question: Jonathan, you mentioned you're doing another movie with Paul Haggis. I kind of assume that you guys didn’t get meet to meet him too much when you work on this. But he becomes such a huge figure, you know, okay? The guy won two straight Academy Awards and no one else has ever done that and so forth. Yet, he’s this deceptively light funny guy in person. Kind of tell me a little bit about what is like what you meet Paul Haggis? What do find interesting or surprising? Was it imposing the first time you met him?

Jonathan Tucker: That’s a great question. The first time I meet him. One is that Paul and Bobby are this is their show and they were day-to-day workers with us on this. And then so, it was a very intimate relationship that was created between all of us and it was interesting to go to Morocco and to shoot to spend to Mexico with Paul and to see him working on a huge movie, I mean Tommy Lee Jones, Charlize Theron, and Susan Sarandon, wonderful actors. And to see the way in which he worked there because what he did to our television series is differently that it was going to treat this film and it - he was exactly the same. And Paul is a beautifully complex person with just an incredible sense of empathy. You feel like when you're working with him that he’s - he’s both behind the camera and right there next to you. And sometimes, he really is right there next to you. He’s got a little Dualt which is like a hardware. It’s like a high power drill or something that he’s converted into a handheld, like a monitor. So he can be very close to you which and walk you through and talk you through. And you feel like he’s kind of sculpting in someway and he’s a huge part of the performance as an actor and he is just tremendous. That was a long answer but he is such an amazing person in my life.

Olivia Wilde: He sort of became my mentor up to we shot the pilot. And I think a lot of people assumed he is not really around and just slapped his name on it for fun and it’s really not the case. He not only directed two episodes, because but obviously supervised the and editing and all of them, and was always available to us and he was open to my very early morning calls about would Jenny - is Jenny behind the counter at the diner again? Or would she say this or would she kill this person and - anyways, he is very hands on and a wonderful person.

Jonathan Tucker: The thing is although, he does come. Some people really - he can be a devise figure, some people really just didn’t like Crash. And you know what, you got to take every project on its own. And I think that however you may feel about his past work or his future work and I mean the positively or negatively, it’s important because I tried to do the same thing to try to look in each project and I tell him and I think that our show really does stand up.

Question: Okay, thank you very, very much for being with us today, Jonathan and Olivia. I just think that you're both so articulate and interesting for people that are very young.

Olivia Wilde: Thank you guys so much. Thanks for joining us.

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