Date of publishing: 8th
July 2007
Richard Hatch has enjoyed international recognition
for more than two decades. He has starred in such
series as The Streets Of San Francisco for which he
won Germany's Bravo Award, the equivalent of an Emmy
Award, and the original Battlestar Galactica for which
he was nominated for a Golden Globe Award. These two
series continue to play throughout the world today.
He has also guest starred in numerous television series
including Dynasty, T.J. Hooker, MacGyver, Murder,
She Wrote, and Jake And The Fatman. His feature film
credits include Charlie Chan And The Curse Of The
Dragon Queen with Michelle Pfeiffer, The Jungle, Prisoners
Of The Lost Universe, African Fever and Party Line.
Richard is also the author of a trilogy of Battlestar
Galactica novels for Byron Preiss Publications. He
has also been writing Battlestar Galactica stories
for Extreme Comics and Realm Press. In 1999, Richard
wrote, co-directed and executiveproduced a 4 minute
Battlestar Galactica Trailer which not only won acclaims
at sciencefiction conventions but also in the worldwide
press. At present, Richard's other pet project, Great
War of Magellan, which he created and wrote, is also
currently being filmed as a Trailer directed by Richard,
and he is in discussions to create a series and/or
video game based on the story. Richard Hatch is currently
playing Tom Zarek in the new version of Battlestar
Galactica.
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Gilles
Nuytens: After three
years on the new Battlestar Galactica, what is your
overall impression?
Richard Hatch: I think that the new
re-imagined version of Battlestar has turned out to
be, you know, an extraordinary show in terms of the
quality of the acting, the writing, the special effects
- it’s probably one of the best if not the best
sci-fi, produced sci-fi, show of all time on TV. And
I think it’s quite amazing that they’ve
gotten the studio support to do such a provocative
cutting-edge show that seems to push the boundaries
of how we’ve defined sci-fi or how sci-fi was
defined in the public consciousness for the past 20,
30, or 40 years. It’s basically forced people
to re-evaluate their opinions about science fiction
and to realize that science fiction is not about four-headed
monsters, but it’s about people, it’s
about life, it’s about politics, it’s
about what’s going in our world, from a fresh
perspective that allows us to maybe put a mirror up
to our society and see the world with a 360° vision
maybe. I think Battlestar Galactica has shattered
a lot of old judgments and belief systems about the
genre and has allowed people who never watched science
fiction ever before to all of sudden realize that,
“Oh my god, this is about something that I can
relate to, this is about something that makes sense
to me in my daily life, it’s something that’s
going on in my world today, and it’s relevant.”
I think science fiction lovers would have told these
skeptical audiences that science fiction has always
been about the world, about people, about life. But
also it explores the theoretical probabilities and
possibilities of life, and maybe the world has gotten
to a place where we’re more ready to ask deeper
questions. But certainly Battlestar has changed the
landscape of science fiction on television and it’s
opened up a whole - I think in terms of music it’s
innovative, the story writing, the wonderful cast,
being able to do again the kinds of special effects
that are being done on Battlestar - I don’t
think they’ve ever been done before for any
science fiction show on TV. It goes to show you that
what was considered impossible a few years ago is
possible, and I think it stretched the limits of maybe
what producers, directors, writers, are going to be
doing in the future. I think Battlestar has been a
benchmark in terms of the evolution of science fiction
on television and we’re going to see a whole
slew of new kinds of science fiction shows coming
out that got their impetus, their inspiration, from
this Battlestar. It’s funny because I have gone
to many conventions and I’ve sat with the producers
of Heroes, of several other top science-fiction shows,
and many of them are huge Battlestar Galactica fans
- they really, really love the show. I think it’s
inspiring a lot of artists and creators to move in
new directions and try new things and think out of
the box. Ron Moore, I think, has courageously gone
where few people were willing to tread. After three
years I think Battlestar has demonstrated that this
story is worthy of a three-generational audience;
from the original show to this show, it’s quite
a huge audience that has always loved Battlestar.
And I think that the new series has more than justified
that this story is a very powerful story and one that
is worth telling. It’s not just that memory
that we have of the original Battlestar, of this big
space opera, but that Battlestar has always been about
much more, it’s always been deeper, richer,
fuller, philosophical, spiritual, political; it’s
always been about all those things. Obviously thirty
years ago they were not able to mine the rich and
dramatic territory that the new show is able to do
thirty years later, because number one, the creators
involved are very out of the box, very creative, very
imaginative producer-writers, and also because you’ve
got a network that supports going in these new, innovative
directions, whereas before we never had that kind
of support. In fact ABC, the studio - nobody really
supported science fiction back then. But again, a
lot has to do with the evolution of science fiction
in the minds of not only executives, but we’re
realizing that science fiction is the number one,
you know, it’s not just a niche genre, we’re
realizing that the biggest grossing films of all time
are science fiction/fantasy movies and television
- I think seven out of the ten. It’s just kind
of strange that it’s taken so long for the networks
to realize that sci-fi is for everyone, not just a
few crazy people walking around in costumes, and I
consider myself one of those crazy people, because
who in the world doesn’t like to put on a costume
and role-play? I mean, we all grew up doing those
kinds of things; it’s one of the most fun things
to do, and fantasy and sci-fi conventions allow the
whole family to go and have a great weekend
and step into a very imaginative topography and let
their creativity soar. I have never met anybody that
didn’t love a good book or a great story, and
science-fiction/fantasy has some of the greatest stories
ever told. Again, I think Battlestar is on the forefront
of all of this. I think these ideas have been laying
dormant, have been explored in the past, but never
with such commitment, with such passion, as the new
Battlestar Galactica has explored this new territory.
Again, I think the new Battlestar has proven itself
worthy of an icon, becoming a sci-fi icon, and it’s
demonstrated the viability that science fiction is
about something that we can all relate to and it goes
well beyond the so-called sci-fi niche audience. It’s
like Star Wars in the sense that Star Wars appealed
to fans of all ages, all backgrounds, all nationalities,
and it appealed to people who never even liked science
fiction before. But Battlestar again is different
than Star Wars; it’s less of a space opera and
it’s more about really getting into the heart
of who we are as people, what makes us tick, where
we come from, were we’re going, the infinite
possibilities of life. I just think as an artist,
for me, I live to be part of the shows that do what
Battlestar is doing and to play characters like the
one I’m playing, Tom Zarek, that allow me to
really be challenged as an actor and to do the kind
of work that you see on Battlestar all the time; some
great acting, great writing, great producing, great
production value, I mean this is a pretty amazing
show.
Gilles Nuytens: Galactica
is really an adult sci-fi, but when you say you like
the show or you like sci-fi to someone, you can always
notice a smile on their face - they won’t take
you seriously. They have preconceived idea about what
sci-fi is that hasn’t really evolved in years.
It’s like we must produce extremely good stuff
to attract the attention of media, which is a good
thing in the end, because it means having a good product.
What do you think about the situation and how can
we change the mentalities?
Richard Hatch: Oh, I think the answer
I just gave you answers that totally. Basically I
answered about three questions probably, all at once,
but obviously again, people who have judgments about
science fiction, don’t know science-fiction,
have not read science-fiction -they have a very cliché,
limited, narrow view of what science fiction is and
it’s not based on reality, it’s not based
on fact. You know, it’s like anything in life
- people form preconceived ideas about everything
in life, and most of these preconceived ideas are
based on fear, insecurity, lack of knowledge or awareness,
and no framework of understanding. Does it mean someone
is less intelligent or less gifted? It just means
that it’s outside someone’s frame of reference,
because maybe they grew up thinking that science fiction
is this or that and, unfortunately, there were a number
of science fiction movies that were made many years
ago, that might have given people the impression that
science fiction was just corny, stupid and silly and
with silly costumes. But I think that in the age we
live in, we’re shattering a lot of old belief
systems, judgments, and paradigms, and if I’ve
learned anything, we are normally wrong about most
of our judgments, whether it be people, politics,
religions, philosophies, most of our judgments are
wrong because we only see part of the picture. And
I think that today, fortunately because of the media,
because of the ability to share information, to see
situations from multiple viewing points, the world
is beginning to debunk many of our judgments about
everything in life, from alternative medicine to science,
to UFO’s, to this and that. Some people live
in a very narrow frame of reference, because of its
terrifying to think that things may not be what we
want or need them to be in order to feel safe or comfortable.
One of the biggest issues for many people has always
been the fear of really thinking there may be life
out there beyond us. I could go on and on [about]
every scientific experiment, every new technology
brought forth into this world has been ridiculed and
put down, people have burned at the stake, put on
the cross, tortured, thrown into prisons because they
had new ideas or new ways of doing things that terrified
people. People have always been afraid of something
new. I think that science fiction is not just a bunch
of garbley-gook, it’s always been written by
the visionary, most intelligent people on the face
of the planet, and it has always extrapolated from
where we are now and where we might be hundreds, thousands,
tens of thousands of years from now. Science fiction,
especially intelligent visionary science fiction,
can be almost prophetic, in terms of some of the issues
and areas of exploration. Most of us just need to
look over all our judgments, and keep an open mind
towards everything and maybe do a little more research
and open our eyes to maybe looking at life, and art,
and situations from what I call a larger, more expanded
viewing point, as opposed to a narrow point of view.
There is so much more out in the world than most of
us see and again we limit what we see by these judgments
that we make about things, and most of the judgments
about science fiction have always been wrong.
Gilles
Nuytens: The new
show describes the human condition far better than
most of the shows we can see on television right now,
do you agree with that?
Richard Hatch: I totally agree with
that. In the past we tended to show life through rosy-colored
glasses; we only wanted to see the so-called positives,
the things that we felt were up-lifting and inspiring,
and we wanted to show the positives as opposed to
the negatives. But I think that in this reality-based
world where we’re being forced to look at ourselves
in the mirror, we’ve come to deeper revelations
and understandings about life, about ourselves, about
the world, about politics, and so our naivety has
been pierced, and we now in a sense are much more
open and ready to look at movies and television shows
that more honestly reflect the world. Now doesn’t
mean that we don’t like a touch of fantasy throw
in, or that art is a way of showing life, but it also
helps us to see things we don’t see. Ultimately
I think art should be inspiring, but that doesn’t
mean it should all be black or white, good guys versus
bad guys - you are either good or you are bad. Everything
has been kind of relegated to clichés. I think
that the new art and new movies have come to the realization
that nobody is all good or bad, even bad guys are
capable of doing good things and good people are capable
of doing bad things under the right conditions. Battlestar
has put people into the most extraordinarily challenging
conditions and we’ve been able to see the best
and the worst of humanity in a very, very powerful
and realistic way. And that’s one way of mirroring
the world. You could also do it in a little bit more
[of a] fantasy context where you’d be one or
two steps removed from the world, but at the same
time you’d still be able to view the world and
still be able to explore sociological, philosophical,
spiritual, [and] political issues. But again, there
are different ways of doing it and Battlestar does
it in a very in your face, very direct, very blunt,
very honest, very gutsy way; it’s a very powerful
show and [for] some people it’s almost too dark
for them and [it may be] too much for them. I would
only say to them that ultimately at the end of the
day I think this new Battlestar, even though it maybe
dark, it is inspiring because it shows that deep down
inside of everybody there is a spark of life, a spark
of goodness, and that even the worst of us has a longing
to do the right thing. And yeah, we see the flaws,
imperfections, and the conflicted struggles of every
human being on the Battlestar Galactica, but at the
same time we see the real hope, real inspiration,
and the true hero is not always the one who’s
got the shiny clothes on and the mask and the cape,
or the so-called perfect person. Sometimes it’s
that courageous struggle within all of us to find
our way in the world and to overcome our challenges,
our dark side, and maybe it’s in the struggle
that we find more [of] a powerful sense of humanity,
and whether we win or loose or whether we succeed
or not, is not even as important as the struggle.
I think it’s all about the struggle within and
each person to deal with their demons. Battlestar
really reflects and mirrors that in a powerful way
and ultimately I think that’s even more inspiring,
than the so-called cliché of the good guy beats
the bad guy down and wins in the end, which is what
we have seen in the past.
Gilles Nuytens: What
is your favorite season so far?
Richard Hatch: Do you mean as a viewer,
as the audience, or as an actor?
Gilles Nuytens: I
would say as an actor.
Richard Hatch: Well, it’s hard
for me because my character comes in and out and sometimes
I have a lot to do, sometimes I have less to do. So
I’ve gotten wonderful scenes to play last year,
but I got a lot more to do the year before, and obviously
the first year I got to do two really good shows which
allowed my character to really show more of who he
was. I think overall a show may seem to go off on
a tangent or may seemingly, and I don’t mean
lose its way, but Battlestar is covering such rich
topography and there is so many wonderful characters
on the show, that sometimes it seems to be going in
multiple directions. But ultimately I think the show
continually gets deeper, richer, fuller, better, and
ultimately as it all plays itself out, that everything
that’s being explored and set up now will slowly
come into focus. It will all come into clarity and
I think it is all ever steadily moving forward, so
I think every season has been better than the last
one, even though individual shows, you have favorites,
but ultimately I think every season has been stronger.
Gilles
Nuytens: And as
a viewer which season do you prefer?
Richard Hatch: As a viewer I like
it more and more. I find with every year I grow more
about the characters, I learn more about the situations,
I learn more about the back story, and so I think
the best season so far has been this last year.
Gilles Nuytens: Have
you already been approached to play in season 4 and
what are your expectations in terms of the next season?
Richard Hatch: Well, when it comes
to Battlestar nobody really knows quite what is going
to happen until they know. And in this particular
show anybody can go at any time, you know, it’s
a very unpredictable show in many cases we don’t
know what is going to happen until we get the script,
so I have no clue what I’m going to be doing
or if I’m going to be doing anything in the
next season - I have no idea. I know my character
is still alive as far as I know, but I have no idea
what their plans are and, generally speaking, I don’t
find out until they call me or until a script arrives
at my door and I’m told I’m going up to
Vancouver. I’ve been as far away as New Zealand
and Australia and a script arrived and I had no clue
it was coming; I have no idea. I sincerely hope with
this rich cast of characters, you know I feel very
blessed to be on this show and I love my character,
so I sincerely hope that my character gets woven into
the plot and has a significant impact in a way that
will help the show and allow me as an actor to do
some more wonderful scenes. I look forward so much
to doing wonderful material and I’ve gotten
some of the best material I’ve ever had on Battlestar.
But, you know, there’s been a lot of material
cut as well because they tend to overshoot on Battlestar
- there’s a lot of characters, a lot of ground
to cover, so many times in the editing room a lot
of good scenes not just for me, for others as well
get put on the cutting room floor. Some of it gets
put on the DVD or the extended versions. But, again,
I can only hope, keep my fingers crossed, that they
value my character enough to bring him back and evolve
his character further so we’ll see -the jury
is out, we will see. I have no idea.
Gilles Nuytens: Okay.
How do you think Tom would react if he learned he
was the Final Cylon?
Richard Hatch: Oh, oh, oh, oh wow,
well, first of all actors love to be surprised and
the more interesting challenges you throw to an actor,
the more exciting it is to play. I have no idea if
I’m a Cylon or not, or I could be lying to you
and not tell you, pretend not to know. The truth is
we can’t tell people anything about what we
know or don’t know on this particular show,
because as you know this show prides itself on surprises.
Certainly if I was a Cylon, that would give me nine
lives, multiple lives, so I certainly wouldn’t
mind that.
Gilles Nuytens: But
how Tom Zarek would react if he learned that?
Richard Hatch: Well, I think Tom
Zarek would be just as surprised as everybody else
on the show. To tell you the truth, what’s so
brilliant about the concept is that even the human
Cylons don’t even know they’re human Cylons
until they find out, and when they find out many times
they’re conflicted between their Cylon part
and their human part, and that was probably programmed
into them in order to disguise them more effectively,
but each character has to deal with the reality that
they’re a Cylon, the same way we saw at the
end of this last season, with those four characters
maybe thinking they might be Cylons, we’ll find
out, but even the possibility of being Cylon was shattering
- imagine finding out something that powerful when
you’ve lived your whole life. I mean it’s
like finding out that your parents aren’t your
parents, or finding out that you’re a totally
different race, imagine if you find out that you weren’t
even born on planet Earth or whatever… I mean,
imagine something of that magnitude. That’s
what it’s got to feel like to find out that
you’re a Cylon, and then you have to deal with
that, so I find it another evolution of the inner
struggle that we all have, finding out that part of
you is Cylon has got to be the ultimate struggle,
and also the conflicting challenge of coming to terms
with your true identity. And again these are all metaphors
and archetypes that are being played with here, and
they’re very powerful metaphors and I think
it, again, whether you’re struggling with your
inner demon or trying to find out who you really are
inside instead of maybe who you think you are - all
these questions everybody has, and finding out that
you are a Cylon is just no different than honestly
only on a much more powerful level of having to come
to terms with your true nature. And
again, all of that is what make Battlestar so interesting,
and it’s something we can all relate, you know,
I don’t know anybody that can’t relate
to the struggles that each of these characters on
this show has. I mean, I look at Tom Zarek, and Tom
Zarek - everybody thinks, “Oh, how do you like
playing a bad guy,” and I say, “Well,
first of all I don’t look at Tom Zarek as a
bad guy.” I think Tom Zarek… to tell you
the truth, he has the balls and the courage to stand
up for what he believes, and he’s paid a huge
price for it. And even in a world where you think
everybody plays by the rules, Tom Zarek has fought
for freedom, has fought for individual rights, has
fought for all kinds of good things, and has been
thrown into prison and tortured for it… so,
you know, who are the good guys and who are the bad
guys? Just because you’re challenging the government
doesn’t make you the bad guy, although we all
have a dark side, and God knows Tom Zarek has a dark
side, and a well-deserved dark side, because of all
the pain and loss that he has endured, and he has
had to struggle with that dark side of his nature,
but I think at his heart, very much like every character
on the show, I think in his heart, everybody, I truly
believe, wants to do good. It’s just that when
we get damaged, one way or the other, physically,
mentally, emotionally, spiritually, it causes incredible
problems, incredible challenges within and without,
and unresolved challenges can turn into some very,
very destructive behavior, and as we have seen on
Battlestar everybody is capable of destructive behavior.
Again, I don’t think that takes away from humanity
- we have this illusion that we need people to be
perfect in order to be loveable, to be the good guy
you’ve got to be perfect. But you know, who
can relate to anybody perfect? The truth is we all
fall off the path, we all lose our way, we all get
damaged, we all have challenges, we all make mistakes,
and it seems to me that the bigger issue is not falling
off the path into our dark side, but the struggle
to find our way back home, to come to terms with mistakes
we’ve made and to find redemption - I think
that that is the ultimate story. And certainly Battlestar
tells that story in a very powerful way, and Tom Zarek
is definitely a character who is seeking, tryinf to
find his own sense of salvation and redemption, but
again, whether he makes it or not, or whether any
character in this show including Baltar makes it,
I just find that that journey is incredibly compelling.
Gilles Nuytens: What
do you think of the evolution of Tom Zarek since the
first time we have seen him?
Richard Hatch: Well, you know Tom
has evolved in many ways from somebody on a prison
barge that we didn’t know, to someone who got
into politics, who ran into a wall because nobody
wanted him to succeed, and therefore they put up blocks,
illegal blocks by the way, to his efforts to find
his way in the political arena to a position where
he can have an influence, I think he has always sought
to find a way to have a more powerful voice in the
government, in what’s happening, because I don’t
think Tom Zarek trusts government, doesn’t trust
the powers that be, doesn’t trust the law, because
he’s seen it used against people, he’s
seen all of that used in a negative way, so he has
very little faith in government, or in people, because
he’s seen the very worst that people have to
offer. He’s been to the dark side, he’s
suffered at the hands of other people’s dark
side, and I think that this is a man who is again
trying to find a way out of abyss and, again, I think
it’s an interesting journey, it’s an interesting
evolution, and in the audience’s mind it’s
got to be strange, because they thought of Tom as
being the ultimate bad guy and now they’re conflicted
because there’s seem to be a lot more to him
than just the guy who is out for his own purposes.
And it’s true; again, nobody is what they seem
on Battlestar Galactica. And I think that’s
a way of saying maybe nobody in life is what they
seem to be. Maybe our judgment of science fiction,
of our families, of each other, maybe we don’t
see the whole picture about anything. So we shouldn’t
be so sure we know. We should keep our minds open
until we have more information before we make up
our minds. And I think Battlestar certainly, with
Tom Zarek, you’re finding out things every day
including the four-part miniseries on Tom Zarek, filled
in a lot of the backstory of Tom Zarek and told you
that his family were killed by a very suppressive
government, he fought against that suppressive government,
he ended up in jail, he paid a huge price. Of course,
everybody assumed that he had to be just some bad
guy out for his own maniacal purposes. I don’t
think anybody is up for that, I think people who do
bad things are very damaged human beings, they don’t
need punishment, they need help. They may need to
be separated from humanity, but I think if you’ve
been to prison you realize that prison doesn’t
make anybody better and, in fact, it makes people
worse. I think anybody that goes into a prison that
you plan to release one day, you shouldn’t put
them in a prison, because they’re gonna come
out [a] far worse hard criminal than when they went
in. You know, the mind of Ron Moore, and writers,
I just think he is a man that has a greater vision
and understanding of the world, and I think he is
willing to do what Star Trek has always said - “To
go where no man or woman has gone before.” He’s
not afraid to go to the very depths of human nature
to explore stories that will illuminate the human
condition. All great artists, all great writers are
courageous enough to take that journey.
Gilles Nuytens: So
what characters would you like to see Tom Zarek developed
with more?
Richard Hatch: Well, you know, as
I’ve always said, I would like to see Tom Zarek
get more involved in the processes of government.
I would like to see him really mount an effort to
push his political agenda. I’d like to see him
obviously I’d like to see him involved in some
kind of personal story or relationship with somebody,
whether it be with Mary McDonnell, the president,
or some character like that where we can see the personal
side of Tom Zarek. I’d love to the relationship
between Tom and Mary and Edward Olmos, you know, the
leaders develop in some interesting, dramatic way.
I’d like to see Tom get, like you said, developed
in way where we can see more of who he really is and
what’s really going on inside of him. One of
the things that makes Tom Zarek interesting obviously
is that we don’t never quite know what his motivations
are, but I think it would be interesting to be able
to explore a little bit more of his life like they
did in the comic book - I would love to see some of
that woven into the scripts and be able to see behind
his agenda. I’d like to see a little bit of
his heart, his backstory, his frustrations, his struggles.
Just like any actor on the show, I think they would
all like to see, have chances to let their characters
evolve and unfold so that we gain a deeper understanding
of who that character is.
Gilles Nuytens: When
the new show came out, you mentioned that you would
have preferred to have first see a conclusion to the
old series prior to re-imagining of the show. You
have written several Galactica novels, so why not
simply write a novel to give the fans a conclusion
to that story?
Richard Hatch: Well, I think there’s
multiple possibilities. Obviously, having been part
of the original show, then I worked for several years
to bring back and continue the original series, which
I was doing way before the re-imagined version was
even thought about, obviously having put so much energy
into that and then also writing several of the Battlestar
Galactica novels updating the original show, projecting
it twenty-five to thirty years into the future. Getting
a chance to see where these stories might have gone,
where these characters would be twenty-five years
later. Obviously I would have loved to have seen some
kind of conclusion or some kind of updating very much
like they did with Star Trek where they brought back
the original Star Trek first and then they did obviously
the Next Generation and then they did Voyager and
Deep Space Nine, but at least the original Star Trek
got a chance to come back and show us where they were
today. Obviously being a part of the original show
I would have loved to have that been possible, but
it’s an expensive undertaking to even do one
show on the magnitude of Battlestar, so I think ultimately
they wanted the freedom to be able to take Battlestar
in multiple directions and they felt they’d
have greater freedom to do that with the re-imagined
version and any producer with his salt I think would
much prefer to do a re-imagining of something as opposed
to having to follow directly in the footsteps of something
that came before. Most very talented, gifted producer/writers,
you know, they want to put their own stamp on something
and I don’t blame them. And obviously this is
a new day, a new decade, it’s a new world, and
sometimes having a fresh perspective on things allows
you to, like what they said, re-imagine an original
premise in a very unique and edgy, cutting-edge way
that is very much in tune with today’s audiences
and where the world is going. You know there is pluses
and minuses in all that, but obviously having been
a part of the original series, I had a great help
to at least update the show and to show where these
characters were today and to have some kind of resolution
or ending of that, and I’ve worked on doing
that in the novels. I got to write some of the comic
books, I got to do some of that in the novels. I’ve
done seven novels, and I think I’d like to do
at least a couple more in order to find some conclusion
and resolution with the original show and if they
ever were able to do it in movie form it might even
be more appropriate to do an animated movie of the
original series. It wouldn’t compete with the
new show, very much like Voyager and Next Generation,
you know, they don’t compete with each other.
It would be great just to see where these characters
were and an animated version like Final Fantasy would
allow the original actors to do their characters and
do the voices and they can make the characters whatever
ages they wanted, and they could bring back some of
the actors that have died. It would also stand on
its own. I think audiences would really enjoy something
like that, but I don’t think it would be any
conflict to the new series. The new series is so well-defined
and grounded and established itself so powerfully
out in the marketplace, I don’t think there
would be any confusion between something like that
and an animated version. I honestly think an animated
version of the original is the way to go with that.
I’ve just seen a little bit of the Battlestar
Galactica CD ROM game where they had an animated version
at the beginning of the game. The animated version
was kind of cool. I thought, wow if they did a movie,
an animated movie of Galactica with the new technology
they have - motion capture and having the real actors
reprise their roles, digitally recreating some of
the actors that have passed away, I think that you
could have some thing that everyone could enjoy. Again
I don’t think it would compete at all with the
new show and I think this new show is so good that
it deserves to go into movies. It should turn into
a series of movies like Star Trek did, but we will
see what happens. The jury is still out in terms of
good shows. They don’t always stay on for some
reason, you know. This is a very, very dramatic, edgy,
provocative show that some people, you know…
there’s still a lot of people out there that
are not ready for something that powerful, they like
entertainment to be a little less heavy and a little
less provocative and they’re not comfortable
with something like that. But I, on the other hand,
as an audience and as an artist, I prefer… I
think art needs to be visionary, needs to be profound,
needs to be about something. I think that’s
what real art is about. It’s what I got into
the business for. I am hungry for great science fiction,
for great writing, great acting, great performing
– there’s not enough of it out there and
there are some good shows, but there are not enough.
I mean I have to struggle to find enough wonderful
things, product, movies that really touch my heart.
Again, I am fortunate I’ve been part of two
great shows - the original Battlestar and this new
Battlestar. I’ve been very blessed to have be
given a wonderful, interesting character to play and
certainly get to know a whole new crew of actors,
writers, and producers thirty years later, so I have
nothing to complain about. I’m developing my
own company now. I’m getting into writing, directing,
and producing. I’ve put together a new television
series, a book series, graphic novel series, and there’s
going to be an MMO online role playing game called
The Great War of Magellan. People can go to www.greatwarofmagellan.com/
and check it out. A whole bunch of things will be
coming out this coming year, but I’ve written
and I’m directing, and I’m writing and
producing, and acting in projects I really care about
so this is a great time in my life and I’m more
than pleased. It’s a great time to be alive.
Gilles
Nuytens: How is
the Great War of Magellan project going?
Richard Hatch: It’s coming
along really well. We are now in the process of setting
up a corporation, raising the money to do the MMO
online role playing game. A Nintendo game. We’re
doing a cell phone game. We’re doing a series
of graphic novels. The novelization of Magellan is
coming out later this year and then we’re gearing
up to do, God knows, it could be a series of movies,
it could be any number of things. I’ve been,
for the past four or five years, developing the concept
and now I’m taking it to the market place.
Gilles Nuytens: There
is a lot of talk about that spin off – Caprica.
What do you think of it?
Richard Hatch: Well, I think it’s
a great idea because, number one, everybody that’s
ever watched both the original show and the new show
have always wondered what came before. That whole
area of Galactica has never been explored. And I think
we’ve read about it, we’ve gotten little
tidbits, but I think everybody would love to find
out exactly how the Cylons became the Cylons, how
those wars came about, how we were finally thrust
off the planet into space, searching for a new homeland.
I think everybody would love to see how that basically
developed, and I think fans of both the old and the
new show would find something in common in Caprica.
I think they could all support that show and really
get into only because again like I said it’s
covering territory that everybody has been interested
in for 25 or 30 years. It’s untapped, uncharted
territory. Hopefully they will get that together.
It will all depend obviously on thousands of if’s,
and’s, and but’s. But the jury is still
out, I don’t think anything’s definite
yet. As far as I know a script hasn’t been approved,
although they have somebody writing a script. But
I think they are waiting until they have the right…
you know, but if it’s Ron Moore, then it’s
not going to be put out there until it’s ready.
Gilles Nuytens: You
are credited with a movie called “Starship II:
Rendezvous with Ramses.”
Richard Hatch: Oh, I don’t
know much about that, you have to understand that
that was filmed three or four years ago. I was at
a convention. They asked me to come in and do a couple
of scenes. It’s just a comedy, comedic thing.
So they just threw a few lines at me and I did it
for a couple of hours and that’s all I know
about it. I’ve never seen it, I don’t
really know much about it. All I know is it was a
lot of fun to just get into this room at a convention
and be able to be silly, so it was fun.
Gilles Nuytens: Outside
of SciFi, do you have any other projects?
Richard Hatch: Well, I’m setting
up a production company. We’re doing several
projects. One of them is called Mars Land, which is
another sci-fi project that I’m working on with
a partner. I can’t go into all the details of
it, but we are setting up a multi-movie deal project
to do several films. You know, I’m not just
sci-fi but I happen to personally love the genre of
sci-fi/fantasy. I find it the most compelling, but
you know a good movie is good movie, a good drama
is a good drama. I love doing common stories about
people, about life, about the world, whether it be
a comedy drama, it doesn’t matter, the point
is we’re looking at multiple types of stories
dealing with human nature and I always like looking
at a story that has something to say about relationships,
about men, women, politics, the world. Obviously you
have to do it in an entertaining, artsy way - artful
- way. So right now I’m in the process of setting
up two different companies: one for Magellan and the
other is for multiple projects including several other
science fiction projects. We’re looking to pick
up a new book deal because our publisher died, from
Byron Price who produced the Battlestar novels. We’re
looking for a new publisher to continue that series.
I may be working with Dynamite on the new Battlestar
comics that they are doing. Doing some stuff for them.
Then there are several other movie possibilities coming
up that I might be involved in acting in and directing.
I just directed an infomercial for the securities
industry which will be coming out next year. I directed,
wrote, produced, and hosted it. I’m going to
probably be doing a lot more directing and writing
in the upcoming months and then obviously get to play
Tom Zarek some more - that would be an absolute delight.
I’m praying to the Lords of Kobol.
Gilles
Nuytens: Are you
sometimes tired of speaking about Galactica all over
and again?
Richard Hatch: No, because I’m
not just an actor in these shows - I happen to have
a passion for these stories. And I have a passion
for this genre of science fiction. I love Star Trek,
love Star Wars, love the Matrix, love all these shows,
you know. Lord of the Rings. You know, I love all
these things. So for me, I never grow tired of talking
about what I love and have a passion for.
Gilles Nuytens: Do
you also watch Stargate or X-files?
Richard Hatch: Stargate - I have
not watched much of. I don’t know much about
Stargate, that’s one show I haven’t watched.
I’m sure I will. X-files, I love. Again, I like
any show that explores the mysteries of life. Stargate
is just one show I haven’t had a chance to look
at. I’m going to look at all the episodes of
Firefly. Someone just gave me the whole DVD [collection]
and I’m going to look at all the episodes of
that. I did see Serenity. I didn’t see much
Farscape or Babylon 5. I did watch Voyager, Deep Space
Nine, Next Generation - all of that.
Gilles Nuytens: Heroes
- did you watch that?
Richard Hatch: Heroes. I watch Heroes
as well. I think that’s an interesting show.
It could be done tongue in check, but they do it in
a serious way that kind of explores the mystique of…
I don’t know… there is something fascinating
maybe realizing that the ability to be a hero lies
within all of us and, you know, dealing with that
fantasy of having superpowers isn’t always what
we think it is. On a realistic level it would be very
challenging to deal with superpowers. It wouldn’t
be just “Oh ha ha - good I can fly! I can scale
tall building with a single bound.” All that
looks great to us as kids growing up, but the reality
of dealing with those abilities would be far more
challenging and I think Heroes is going into a really
interesting exploration of that subject matter. It’s
well-produced, well-acted, and I think it’s
a great show.
Gilles Nuytens: Thank
you for your time and for answering my big questions.
Richard Hatch: No, no you’re
very welcome. Good questions. It was a pleasure talking
to you. Take care.
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